The character is interesting (then again, I am known for finding 'boring' characters 'interesting'), they're just not using her.
*smacks the boys at Bridge*
(Okay, so my idea of 'using her' is having her carry on a hot affair with Ronan in sekrit that only the audience knows stop moping over Shep all the time, and start going out and kicking some tail.)
Well I was trying to be funny too - though perhaps not so successfully.
You're right that Atlantis has been fairly flexible on shipping. There have been suggestions of several pairings, but nothing so explicit as "that's my sidearm, I swear" - or whatever it is that passes for canon 'ship in the SG universe. (Which I have to say looks like absolutely nothing is happening between just about anyone as compared to the Farscape or BSG universes.)
But anyway, I'm sure it makes people scream. ;)
And yes, it is all fun and games until people start forgetting it's a Television Show For Crying Out Loud! :)
The character is interesting (then again, I am known for finding 'boring' characters 'interesting'), they're just not using her.
Okay, writer girl, how should they be using her? She's the leader... she can't be running off on every offworld mission; she may make the big decisions as in 'yes we will/no we won't be your allies', but she's not in the field for those split-second action-packed choices.
Because that's just not her personality, or her background. Kirk had the capability of jumping in and kicking ass. Weir is a namby pamby diplomat with no field experience or special skill.
And that sounds mean, I know, but I'm just trying to be real, yo ;)
They could put her in a situation where she does have to make those split-second action-choices. She goes off-world sometimes, what if it all goes wrong and she's left with Lorne and co. (or not even them) to fend for herself?
What about a situation where she's the one responsible for things going disastrously wrong? Not John, not Rodney - nobody but Liz. She makes a bad call, she has to live with the consequences?
And there's always the one where negotiations go pear-shaped and she and Teyla have to get themselves out of it without the help of the boys. (In my brain, this scenario is 'The Skywalker Paradox' ie. "My name's Luke Skywalker, I'm here to rescue you!")
Or they could strand her off-world with Ronan where they have to have rilly hawt sexx0rs before they can get out of there!
They could put her in a situation where she does have to make those split-second action-choices. She goes off-world sometimes, what if it all goes wrong and she's left with Lorne and co. (or not even them) to fend for herself?
Heheh. Why do I keep thinking of the movie 'Castaway'? Lizzie and ten tons of FedEx boxes.
What about a situation where she's the one responsible for things going disastrously wrong? Not John, not Rodney - nobody but Liz. She makes a bad call, she has to live with the consequences?
That's good for a one-time dose of humanization, but you can't overuse it. And even if she's the one that makes that bad decision, it's other people - like Shep and his team - who have to live with it, and that's what's interesting to watch. Lizzie just gets to sit at home and fret.
I think you're on the right track, though. We know Shep's a leader because he leads the military contingant. Ditto for McKay and the physics-based scientists, and Carson and the medical-based scientists. We know Teyla is a leader because she was leading her people prior to Suspicion. We know Ronon... well, he's more of a lone wolf, really, but he's no peon. We've even see Ford, who started out as a peon, become a leader in his own right.
Lizzie... we KNOW that she's the leader of the expedition, obviously, but there are times where the reasoning behind that isn't exactly clear. Other than politics. I want to see an episode (or, barring that, a story) that lets us see Lizzie without the protective cocoon of the boys (and Teyla), or Ancient pals, where she's on her own and has to figure it out and we think "wow, she really is cool (and interesting), no wonder she's in charge". Doesn't have to be physical (didn't Picard usually get his ass kicked in a fight?) although, knowing this show, I wouldn't be surprised. But if Lizzie's going to be a lead and not a Hammond, she needs to show more... coolness.
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The character is interesting (then again, I am known for finding 'boring' characters 'interesting'), they're just not using her.
*smacks the boys at Bridge*
(Okay, so my idea of 'using her' is having her
carry on a hot affair with Ronan in sekrit that only the audience knowsstop moping over Shep all the time, and start going out and kicking some tail.)no subject
*shakes head in despair*
Next thing you'll be telling me that Sam/Rodney is canon. ;)
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I never said anything about canon, I just said it was my idea. (Plus, you know, watch a lot of people scream.)
Atlantis has reasonably flexible shipping for me: a couple OTPs and some 'ooh, cool!' pairings that are definitely left-field.
It's all fun and games until people start writing hate-letter-campaigns... :D
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You're right that Atlantis has been fairly flexible on shipping. There have been suggestions of several pairings, but nothing so explicit as "that's my sidearm, I swear" - or whatever it is that passes for canon 'ship in the SG universe. (Which I have to say looks like absolutely nothing is happening between just about anyone as compared to the Farscape or BSG universes.)
But anyway, I'm sure it makes people scream. ;)
And yes, it is all fun and games until people start forgetting it's a Television Show For Crying Out Loud! :)
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Who, ME?
The character is interesting (then again, I am known for finding 'boring' characters 'interesting'), they're just not using her.
Okay, writer girl, how should they be using her? She's the leader... she can't be running off on every offworld mission; she may make the big decisions as in 'yes we will/no we won't be your allies', but she's not in the field for those split-second action-packed choices.
She's Hammond. Or, ya know, Picard. With boobs.
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And that sounds mean, I know, but I'm just trying to be real, yo ;)
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What about a situation where she's the one responsible for things going disastrously wrong? Not John, not Rodney - nobody but Liz. She makes a bad call, she has to live with the consequences?
And there's always the one where negotiations go pear-shaped and she and Teyla have to get themselves out of it without the help of the boys. (In my brain, this scenario is 'The Skywalker Paradox' ie. "My name's Luke Skywalker, I'm here to rescue you!")
Or they could strand her off-world with Ronan where they have to have rilly hawt sexx0rs before they can get out of there!no subject
Heheh. Why do I keep thinking of the movie 'Castaway'? Lizzie and ten tons of FedEx boxes.
What about a situation where she's the one responsible for things going disastrously wrong? Not John, not Rodney - nobody but Liz. She makes a bad call, she has to live with the consequences?
That's good for a one-time dose of humanization, but you can't overuse it. And even if she's the one that makes that bad decision, it's other people - like Shep and his team - who have to live with it, and that's what's interesting to watch. Lizzie just gets to sit at home and fret.
I think you're on the right track, though. We know Shep's a leader because he leads the military contingant. Ditto for McKay and the physics-based scientists, and Carson and the medical-based scientists. We know Teyla is a leader because she was leading her people prior to Suspicion. We know Ronon... well, he's more of a lone wolf, really, but he's no peon. We've even see Ford, who started out as a peon, become a leader in his own right.
Lizzie... we KNOW that she's the leader of the expedition, obviously, but there are times where the reasoning behind that isn't exactly clear. Other than politics. I want to see an episode (or, barring that, a story) that lets us see Lizzie without the protective cocoon of the boys (and Teyla), or Ancient pals, where she's on her own and has to figure it out and we think "wow, she really is cool (and interesting), no wonder she's in charge". Doesn't have to be physical (didn't Picard usually get his ass kicked in a fight?) although, knowing this show, I wouldn't be surprised. But if Lizzie's going to be a lead and not a Hammond, she needs to show more... coolness.