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allisnow ([personal profile] allisnow) wrote2005-07-07 09:05 am
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They thought...

They thought that attacking the United States on 9/11 would plunge the country into despair and fear, would keep us out of the middle east and out of their jihad against the Western world.

They were wrong.

They thought that attacking Spain on 3/11 would change that country's policy and, ultimately, their presence in Iraq.

They were right.

They thought that attacking England on 7/7 would cow the Brits into pulling out of Iraq and Afghanistan. They thought it would serve as a warning to Italy and Denmark to do the same.

Time will tell.

[identity profile] andveryginger.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. If it does turn out to be al Qaida-related, it could go one of two ways: The Brits could tuck tail and run, as the Spanish did or they could suck it up and show the same strength of character and defiance they did under Churchill, going after these bastards. I'd like to think that it would be the latter -- but then, I'm sometimes naive in my hope for human nature. ;)
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[identity profile] allisnow.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 01:42 pm (UTC)(link)
So far I'm optimistic, since they're so determined to get things back to normal and since this attack wasn't as destructive to the infrastructure as 9/11 was, and from what I understand Tony's party is in a much better place politically than Anzar's was during Madrid. But I don't see them going on the offensive. It's just not PC.

[identity profile] hwcarnage.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
We won't pull out, we do not bow to terroists

Not sure about the offensive thing but I can see a lot of peeps rounded up and held under the terror act

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[identity profile] allisnow.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Round them up, hold them, and then beat them with rubber hoses! THEN we'll talk!

[identity profile] hwcarnage.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Well as far as I can tell thats pretty much what happens ... or what I like to think happens ;)

I think it's scotland yard that get to interigate the bastards, they should hand them to the black watch (highland regiment of the army) and let them ask the questions

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[identity profile] allisnow.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah well if you really want to abuse them you have to do the Mexican hat dance around their Korans. Of course then Amnesty International will get mad at you.

[identity profile] hwcarnage.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I dunno what a mexican hat stand is but i'm guessing it would be mockity :)

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[identity profile] allisnow.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Mexican Hat DANCE: go here (http://www.janbrett.com/piggybacks/hatdance.htm). And listen to the music... you may have heard it before. It's very popular in Looney Tunes ;)

[identity profile] hwcarnage.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Muhahaha

Yesh I am familiar with it afterall ;)

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[identity profile] allisnow.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought you might be ;)

[identity profile] mylo1012.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 12:56 pm (UTC)(link)
And if the world was black and white, nobody would be colorblind...
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[identity profile] allisnow.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you get that off a Hallmark card? ;)
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[identity profile] allisnow.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok, not Hallmark then ;)

[identity profile] lydkami.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
They thought that attacking Spain on 3/11 would change that country's policy and, ultimately, their presence in Iraq.

They were right.


tut.tut. Alli live is not that simple and they were not right, not fully. The fact is that the Spanish population didn't want the war and the reason why the other party won? It wasn't directly because of the attack it was because the ones on the power lied directly and denied the truth being said by the specialists. They claimed and claimed and pulled by the teeth that the ones behind had been ETA, when police specialists and any other type of specialist that had a say in the matter said that it was not ETA's work, not their modus operadum neither their objective. The fact that they lied completely without saying that there might be a possibility that it had been Al-Qaeda and not ETA, when in fact there were no possibility for ETA to do that so it was quite stupid of them to say because the truth was going to show up earlier or later...it showed up earlier than the election and people showed by their votes that they didn't want people that lied in power. I so don't see how Al-Qaeda won, we just don't want people like that in the power, if anyone else does? well go ahead and have fun in your created world of evil vs goodness and later explain us how was the trip by fantasy land. Sorry but can't stand arround letting you say that, the change in policy was not because Al-Qaeda it was because of the actions of the people heading the nation.

In fact, I believe it's a good message we sended. We want the truth and that's it, it's what we should have and what the people heading the nation should give.

just my 2 cents :)
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[identity profile] allisnow.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll give you your two cents, but do you believe the terrorists don't think that they had something to do with it? Hardly. They figure they're 1 and 1, so might as well give it another shot.

[identity profile] lydkami.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Well it does depends on how they view the world, in black&white or with shades of gray (or is it grey in US English). I just say that the truth is there very plain now it depends on your own perspective of reality.

who's the one in your icon?
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[identity profile] allisnow.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Perspectives of reality... oy ;)

My icon is of Phedre, the main character in the Kushiel Trilogy, which was also the inspiration for my banner :D It's a great threesome of fantasy/alt history books by Jacqueline Carey.

[identity profile] dannylurks.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
They will never cow us into doing anything, Alli. The IRA didn't and whoever is responsible for this won't.
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[identity profile] allisnow.livejournal.com 2005-07-07 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm happy to hear it :)